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ScaleUp Radio

Jun 30, 2023

Hello I’m Granger Forson or find me on LinkedIn.

This time on ScaleUp Radio I speak with Phil Kiernan, the owner of the award-winning Farmer Boys Inn & 3 other businesses.


Phil is a serial entrepreneur and started with the Farmer Boys Inn in 2000 and built it to an award-winning standard. In 2006 he then created Mad About Pies to make his teams famous pies and sell them to everyone.  He then built a property business and now has created a property development business.


Phil is passionate about learning. When he starts something, he finds the best coaches to learn from and guide him. He then takes it on and develops his own ways.


We cover so much ground, so get your pencils ready, including:


- Listen to your customers and adapt.

- Self education all the time is the key and learn from the best.

- Train your people not just to do their job but be businesspeople too.

- Outsource everything to free up your time.

- Marketing is the number 1 skill for a business owner, so don’t abdicate responsibility for it. 


What is so great about this conversation is that Phil gives so much advice and food for thought from his past and ongoing experience. It is his energy and enthusiasm for his business to grow and succeed that drive him to find the right people for him to employ. 


I know that you’ll get so many things out of this episode. I know you will need to listen to it more than once.


Phil can be found here:




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Rich Dad Poor Dad by Robert Kiyosaki -


Think & Grow Rich by Napoleon Hill -


Surrender by Bono -


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