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ScaleUp Radio

Dec 12, 2022

Hello. I’m Granger Forson and on this episode of ScaleUp Radio I’m talking to Andre Smague from A & B Fencing.


A & B Fencing do pretty much what they say on the tin; but they are a little but more. They are bespoke timber builders, meaning that they can help with the construction of anything from a fence, right through to a man cave.


The company has been in business for 35 years and Andre originally came on as a consultant about 5 years ago - but came onboard full-time about 3 years ago.


As always, we cover an awful lot of ground in our conversation including:


 - the benefit of keeping the organisation quite lean when it comes to staff within the business

 - why focusing on quality, not output, will scale your business dramatically 

 - the importance of working towards a healthy culture within the business

 - why putting your staff first leads to success in all parts of the business


What is so good to see with Andre, and A & B Fencing as a whole, is the way in which they approach development within the company - and the importance they place on it. I know you’ll get something from this episode.




Andre can be found here:


Mobile number - 07483 802908


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